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Frequently Asked Questions
These are the questions we get asked most often. They are (mostly) reproduced verbatim from feedback relayed to us by our chapter coordinators, and from email queries. The answers were written by Annie Zaidi, Manisha Lakhe and Peter Griffin.
We think that we have managed to answer just about everything. If we haven’t, please email us (caferati AT gmail DOT com) and let us know. Use Caferati FAQs as your subject line, please.
And we do not look kindly on people asking us questions that have been answered here.
Click on a question from the list below to jump straight to the answer, or just skip the list and read the whole lot, starting here. Clicking on the word top below each answer brings you back to this point on the page.
(Last modified: 15th August 2006)
 How and when did Caferati start?
What, and cut out the verbiage, please, is Caferati?
What’s the difference between the forum, the blog and the email newsgroups?
What are Caferati’s activities?
Are there any eligbility criteria for Caferati membership? [modified]
I can’t write but I am good listener/reader. Can I join? /
Is there an age limit (upper or lower) for joining?
How do I join Caferati?
How do I subscribe to a newsgroup for my city? [new]
My city isn’t on Caferati’s list. But I’d like to attend a read-meet. What do I do? [new]
I’m on the [city name] newsgroup. Does that make me a member of Caferati? [new]
Is there a membership fee?
Let me clarify: do I have to part with any money at all, under any circumstances?
Where do I post my writing?
Where can I read and react to other writers and their writing?
Is Caferati moderated?
Who is the moderator?
Why or how is someone chosen to run a local chapter? What are the qualifications to be a chapter coordinator? Do I have to be a published, professional writer of great seniority?
Who are the read-meet moderators?
Who are the read-meet hosts? Are there any requirements for read-meet venues?
In how many cities is Caferati active?
How often does the group meet?
What the heck is a read-meet anyway?
Do I have to bring along original writing at my very first meet or is it okay to just observe for the first couple of times? [new]
I get stage-fright. / I’m not comfortable reading aloud. / I have a soft voice. / I have a sore throat. How do I participate in a meet?[new]
Can we discuss works of great authors in read meets?
Can I post / workshop / read articles on social issues? What about medicine, military, politics and other specialist topics?
What do members learn at these such read-meets?
What are Caferati’s achievements?
What’s next on Caferati’s mind?
How many members do you have?
Where can I find the book published by Caferati?
What is SatCT?
How do I join Caferati’s blog?
How do I contact Caferati ? Whom do I contact?
What happens to our works if we post them at Caferati? Any copyright issues?
Is work displayed on Caferati’s message board or blog considered published? Does it prevent me from submitting that work to a site / publication / contest that states it requires unpublished work? [new]
Does Caferati pay me for my writing?
Does Caferati have any awards or prizes for writers?
Must I absolutely, compulsorily, mandatorily be a member at the message board before I can participate in a read-meet? / I don’t have regular web access / I break out in hives when I see a computer / What the heck is a message board?
Does Caferati guarantee that my writing will be seen in print?
Do my posts to the message board need approval? Must I clear what I want to read with the moderator before a read-meet?
Why did my startling / brilliant / sensational / marvelous / world-changing example of writing at its very peak not that my mom, significant other and all my best friends said was wonderful receive not any response at all?
How do I get published?
Why is Caferati doing this?
Who pays the bills?
Caferati began as an online network called Bombay Writers’ Cafe (on the networking site, www.ryze.com), in July, 2004. The bulk of our interaction still takes place there.
The idea of meeting in the real world came up a few weeks later, and our first read-meet happened on a rain-swept August evening in 2004, at Bandstand, in Bandra, Bombay, India. It was attended by all of ten people, with only one person reading original work. The others lost no time in giving feedback and suggestions for improvement. That day, we also discussed the possibility of future read-meets, and ground rules for interaction.
At the second read-meet, things were very different: more people, many more readings, much more feedback and, of course, discussions about creative liberties, the industry and business of publishing, and finding our place under the writer’s sun.
Like the cliche goes, there was no looking back, after that.
Within a few weeks, we realised that this writers’ group was not going to be a Bombay-only affair. People from all over India, and some from other countries as well, joined the online network. Thanks to the fun we had at our first few meets, and the reports on the message board (which have become a tradition) and the blog, members in other cities wanted to organise read-meets in their own cities, complete with coffee and snacks and arguments about creative liberties and the business of publishing. Some enthusiastic souls went ahead and did the spadework, read-meets began in several other cities, and BWC morphed into Caferati (which combines the cafés that writers seem to have an affinity for, with literati ).
Since then, there have been dozens of meets—once a month, on an average—held under the Caferati banner. More cities are joining the bandwagon, even as we write.
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Caferati is a forum for writers in English. We use a message board on Ryze as a discussion and workshopping area, we run a blog that showcases some of our best writing, and we meet in the real world to share our writing in events we call read-meets (and these read-meets are coordinated via local email newsgroups).
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http://bwc-network.ryze.com, a.k.a. the Ryze board, a.k.a. the forum, a.k.a. the discussion group, a.k.a. the message board, is an online space where all members of Caferati can post their writing, respond to other
people's work and discuss issues of literary import.
The blog is a by-invitation-only kind of space. But everyone is free to comment on whatever is posted there, including non-members.
The email newsgroups are meant to help members of local chapters keep abreast of Caferati happenings in their cities.
However, some of the chapters also use the mail groups to inform each other of local events that are relevant and of interest to writers (for instance, a book reading,
launch or play). And, since members living in the same city frequently become friends, newsgroups are also sometimes used to organise informal gatherings, just to hang out, no readings.
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We are essentially a writers’ group. We write, we share our writing, news about writing and writing opportunities, and by giving constructive feedback, we hope to encourage budding writers, as well as help them improve.
Most of this happens online, at our message board, where members are free to post their writing.
We also try to have regular formal writing exercises on the board. Participation is not mandatory, but is encouraged.
Once a month (usually), members in various cities organise what we call read-meets (you’ll find an explanation below).
Now and then, a local chapter might decide to organise a special event. For instance, our Pune group held a scripting workshop in 2005, with a professional coming in to guide and instruct participants, which eventually spun off into an independent theatre group. Delhi and Bombay have had on-the-spot writing exercise sessions instead of a read-meet. Delhi has hosted a meet where several experts came in to discuss the art of criticism with reference to fiction, non-ficton and poetry. But these other activities depend entirely on the initiative taken by local volunteers and group coordinators. These events and activities may or may not be free of cost.
Every now and then, we mail out a newsletter, Caferati Listings that informs its subscribers about opportunities for writers. That includes paid work, freelance or full-time, calls for submissions, contests and other opportunities. Please see this page for details, and go here to subscribe.
And our older Caferati Contests newsgroup send out information about contests that Caferati runs, collaborates on or supports.
We may, in the future, organise events in collaboration with other entities.
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Everyone’s eligible, but there are two basic criteria:
1. We prefer that you are above 18 years of age.
This is because we do not want our members to be restricted to writing fit to be read by minors (though writing for children is very much a valid and lively part of our activities). We realise, of course, that there is no way we can vet the age of a random web visitor, so we have to trust in parental supervision keeping children away from our message board, and the vigilance of our members.
2. You should write in English.
We believe a writing group must have some focus, and that we, the people who run Caferati, should stick to an area where we have some competence.
This is not to say we frown on writing in other languages. Most of our members are multilingual (only natural in a country like India, where most of our membership lives or has roots), and participate in other writing groups as well. The more the merrier, we say, and the better for writing as a craft, hobby and profession, which is, after all, what we seek to promote.
(It is also pertinent to note here that many of our members have a keen interest in translating and transcreating work from and to other languages, and that this is actively encouraged.)
0. You should be not just open to feedback but positively turking for it.
We thought this was obvious, but apparently there are people out there who don’t actually want feedback but still want to join a writers’ forum. Go figure.
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Yes, of course! Welcome! May we get you a chair? Writers love readers above all else.
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No upper limit. Eighteen is the lower limit. Yes, we realise that this cannot be enforced in a virtual environment. But we try.
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Simple. Click here. Or copy and paste this address into your browser address bar and hit Go : http://www.ryze.com/signup.php?r=0&networkname=bwc.
That link will take you to a page that will ask you to join Ryze (joining is free), and once you have completed their online form, you automatically join Caferati.
If you are already a member of Ryze, then simply go to our network page - http://bwc-network.ryze.com - and hit the Join button. That page also has a list of (which you only see when you’re logged in) , and links to, Caferati’s local chapters, which you can also apply to join, if you wish to.
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Go to the newsgroup’s home page (you'll find the current list here) and click on join. Remember to answer the question on that page, which goes like this: Please tell us about yourself, why you want to join this group, and how you found us. [Blank Join requests, or requests that show you haven’t read our web site WILL be deleted.] No, don’t expect us to know or remember your email address from other interactions.
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Um. Well, you could visit one of the cities that does have an active local group. Yes, we’ll stop trying to be funny.
If you think you can get together a few writing enthusiasts to form a Caferati chapter in your city, do let us know. We’d love to help you. We may even be able to look through our files and dig out some names of people in your city whom you may not know directly, and help you work together. Mail caferati At gmail Dot com. Take a look at the questions that have to do with city coordinators, read-meet hosts and read-meet moderators first, please.
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The newsgroups are just a convenient method for city coordinators to keep in touch with members in that city, and keep them informed about read-meets. When you join a city newsgroup, you are only guaranteed information about read-meets. To get feedback on your work on a 24/7 basis, you’ll need to join our Message board.
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At the moment, no. If we change that at some point, it will be with plenty of advance notice.
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If you attend a read-meet, you will have to pay an equal share of any expense incurred by the coordinator and host. This could include snacks and beverages, hire of chairs and the like, and, sometimes, venue hire charges. These are always at cost, and since advance payments are made on members’ behalf by these kind souls, we insist that payments must be paid on the spot.
Participation in any of our online activities is free at present. We may, in the future, consider a small membership fee, but that will only be when we can offer our members more facilities than we do at the moment.
Please note that free refers to Caferati specifically, and not to the providers of the services we use.
Our message board, where most of our online activity happens, is part of Ryze, the networking site. Ryze basic membership is free at this time, but that may change depending on Ryze's goals and business plan. If Ryze changes its policies, we hope to be able to inform our members well in advance, but we cannot guarantee this.
Our blog is run on Blogger, and we use Googlegroups for the mailing groups that help our local chapters coordinate read-meets and the like. Both services are owned by Google, and are currently free of cost, but you understand that we cannot possibly guarantee that it will stay that way forever.
(Yes. We do have to state these kind of things. People can, and have, asked.)
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On our message board at http://bwc-network.ryze.com. You must be a member of both Ryze and Caferati's forum to post your work. (Anyone in the world with a net connection can read posts, though.)
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On our message board (http://bwc-network.ryze.com) and on our blog (http://caferati .blogspot.com).
Anyone in the world with a live net connection can read these sites, but you do need to sign up to respond and critique on the board. Commenting on the blog is free to all at the moment, though we’d prefer you left us a name.
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The discussion board is moderated, but not actively. This means that posts do not go through an approval process. But posts can be removed at the moderators’ discretion. This is done rarely, and only when the guidelines posted on that board are flouted.
Posts to the blog are moderated in a similar fashion, but except for one incident of plagiarism (which, as writers, we take very seriously), no post has been removed by the moderators.
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The moderator on the discussion board is a composite entity called Caferati. :) The people who have access to that identity are Peter Griffin, Manisha Lakhe and Annie Zaidi.
The same triumvirate has the powers of high, low and middle justice on the blog.
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Nobody is chosen to run local chapters.
Enthusiastic members who can spare the time volunteer to organise and coordinate Caferati activities in their cities. But they do not run anything. Caferati, by and large, runs itself, with minimal supervision.
We do not ask for any qualifications, except for a love of writing, and a desire to promote it as a hobby, craft or profession. We do insist that these volunteers be regular participants on the message board. That is, they must frequently post original work, or, at the very least, provide feedback to those who do.
No, this person is not necessarily a senior writer, either in age or writing experience, though such individuals are more than welcome to volunteer, provided they stick to our basic rules on coordination and feedback.
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The role of the moderator at our read-meets is to frame a general order to the readings, steer the proceedings, facilitate participation by all present, and ensure that feedback and discussion stays on track.
Moderators at read-meets are usually initially chosen by the coordinators (and quite often, at least in the early days of any given city chapter, the coordinators double up as moderators), but more usually, they are selected by a process of rotation or consensus among the members of that city’s chapter.
Sometimes, an invited guest who is an experienced and/or respected writer, may guest-moderate, but that is only by member consensus.
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Anyone kind enough to offer their space—home, garden, terrace, office, meeting room, whatever—as read-meet venues qualifies as a host in our books.
Requirements? Enough space to seat at least a dozen people (cushions and mats or carpets will do fine, and if you need to hire extra chairs, those present will share the expense), and a reasonably quiet environment (quiet enough for a soft-voiced writer to be heard by all present). You don’t have to worry about being able to cater the event—coordinators usually order snacks and stuff—but it would be nice if you let us use your kitchen to heat food and make beverages. And we’ll help clean up after ourselves.
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Online, it really isn’t possible to say. Our members come from all over the world, from places big and small. We do not insist that they identify their locations.
As to real world read-meets, at last count, we had fourteen chapters that have met at least once: Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Bombay, Calcutta, Delhi, Hyderabad, Jaipur, Kanpur, Lucknow, Madras, Nagpur, Pune, Dubai and Lahore.
Jodhpur , San Francisco, Singapore and London are on the cards and will, hopefully, join the gang any time now.
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Online? 24/7.
At read-meets? We try to meet once a month, on an average. But if there is enough enthusiasm and participation from members of any given local chapter, they are free to meet more often.
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Basics. A read-meet is the in real life equivalent of Caferati’s message board. Simply put, it is a group of writers meeting at a pre-decided location, and reading out their writing to the others present, for feedback and suggestions.
Ingredients: A few writers who think they will benefit from peer review, a coordinator willing to organise a venue with enough place for those writers to sit around and chat, a moderator to steer the proceedings, and yes, plenty of coffee. (Certain heretic members have been known to serve lime juice, tea and other beverages.)
Where? We have found that a member’s home makes for a great venue, with costs for the coffee and snacks being shared by all present.
We have also tried, with varying degrees of success, more public spaces: libraries, bookshops, seasides, gardens, coffee shops, offices, you name it.
When? Once a month in each city, on the average.
How long? We have found that between two and three hours is ideal. Shorter, and things get rushed; longer, and you test the patience of even the most gracious host.
Protocol:
Those who want to read their work must send it in to the moderator in advance. This is not a vetting process; it just helps the moderator plan the event, making sure everyone gets to read, and that there is a distribution of genres and styles.
Works read must take less than ten minutes to read aloud, unless permission is specifically sought and obtained from the moderator in advance. This is to allow as much participation as possible.
Very frequently, members from other cities send in material to be read for them. But since the focus is face-to-face interaction, and since those not present would not benefit from that process any more than they do on the message board, the writers at the meet always get first priority.
Feedback is requested from all present, and usually restricted to a few minutes, with the moderator choosing when to move on to the next writer. Writers are free to ask for specialised feedback, otherwise it is taken for granted that they want general feedback on style, content, and the writing.
Writers who do not want feedback are definitely not welcome. Writers who want only praise are hereby formally advised that this rarely happens.
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Whatever you’re most comfortable with. We can assure you that if you do choose to read, you’ll find yourself in a very supportive environment. We don't bite.
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No sweat. We understand. Many of us are similarly afflicted. Here’s a plan: When you’re sending in work you’d like to present at a read-meet, tell the moderator that you’ll be present, but you’d like someone else to read for you. Arrangements will be made.
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Yes, at the discretion of the moderator, and only if time permits, and not more than one author per read-meet. We know that there is much to learn from the masters, but that can be done just as effectively on our message board.
Besides, we believe that a reading group is a more appropriate forum for such discussions. Caferati is a writers’ forum and the focus is very clearly your original writing.
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You can post anything, if you’ve written it yourself. Just remember that you’re communicating with other writers. Expect - even demand - feedback on the writing. Do not expect, leave alone demand, that others will rally around your dashing white charger.
Yes, writers are part of society, and yes, you want to use your writing as a tool for change, but this is a place to hone your writing abilities not evangelise your causes. We will be lenient about enforcing this guideline (and indeed we have turned a blind eye in the past), but please do not push it. Above all, do not, please, do not, get into heated discussions and flame wars that have to do with the content of your opinion pieces. Those will be discouraged. Actively. If we suspect that your intention is merely to provoke, we will delete your posts without asking you first.
If you post or read articles written by someone else, then they should be
relevant to writing, literature, or related themes. And of course, they must respect copyright.
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Learning is an extremely subjective process. All the same, many of us
discover, with mixed feelings, that we're not alone in our struggle to
write, be published, be listened to.
Some people learn, to their
dismay, that they aren’t the, er, last word in writing.
We learn that talent lurks in the unlikeliest places, but that there’s
always room for touching up and polishing the rough edges.
We learn to respond, without prejudice, but with patience.
We learn to be gentle with criticism. We also learn to be unsparing
with it.
We encourage those who are just beginning to write,
express our delight at discovering new talent, and scold those who
refuse to work on their craft under the guise of being unaffected by
public opinion.
That much learning we can guarantee. For more, come to a read-meet
with an open mind and find your own learning.
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Achievements are hard to measure, and since this is our own site, you’re entitled to take anything we say with a pinch of salt. But here's what we're pleased about.
We set up Caferati to give giving writers a shared creative space, where they can interact, meet, receive feedback and hone their skills. Today, we have close to two thousand members on our Ryze discussion board, which is abuzz with activity 24/7, and thirteen active city chapters (with a few more in the making) which organise read-meets that are looked forward to with much pleasurable anticipation by members. We’re proud of that.
We had, in 2004, organised a nation-wide short fiction contest, taking off from an idea born at one of our readings. We received over 150 entries from all over India. The best entries will be compiled into an anthology of short stories, tentatively titled 'Stories at the Coffee Table, Volume One' (SATCT-V1). Due to a variety of entirely personal circumstances, which we won't get into here, we haven’t published that book yet. We’re happy to say we have now regrouped, and hope to have the book out in early 2007. We hope to follow this venture with similar contests in other genres.
We’re also proud of the fact that some of our members have participated in, been short-listed for, and won writing contests, and that quite a few have gone on to find buyers and/or publishers for writing first workshopped on our message board or blog.
In January 2005, we were invited to be part of the Literature section of the Kala Ghoda Arts Festival; we hosted an evening where we presented some of the best of our writing. In February 2005, we were invited back to do a similar evening. That wasn’t all. We have also collaborated with the Kala ghoda Association to conceive and manage two very successful contests, and we created and managed the official festival blog, The Kala Ghoda Times.
Most recently, we have been invited to be a part of the Jaipur Heritage International Festival’s Literature Festival. We will be hosting an evening billed as Caferati and Wine.
We have also assisted publication groups (like DNA, the newspaper, and Zubaan Books) in the publicising of their Calls for Submissions and the like. And we have frequently run recruitment ads for organisations.
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This web site will be the first to know every time we think up something new and unleash it on an unsuspecting world.
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Over 2000 registered. And that list grows from day to day. Perhaps a few hundred of those participate on our message board an in our read-meets with any degree of regularity. This does not include members who have only attended read-meets but lack the desire or web connections to participate online.
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If you’re referring to Stories at the Coffee Table, it is not yet published. Watch this space.
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SatCT stands for Stories at the Coffee Table. This is a volume of
short stories that Caferati intends to publish. It is a collection of
the best entries entered in our short story contest. The editing and publishing process is underway. For more details, see these pages.
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You must be invited. Consistency, enthusiasm and talent are the prerequisites for being on
the blog. (See this page for a more detailed explanation.)
At this stage, invitations are not extended to everybody. We’d like to watch you participate on the discussion board first, both with your own work and in your response to other people’s work.
You are, however, free to comment and respond to anything that’s on the blog. In fact, regular, informed, constructive feedback there is one way to get yourself an invitation.
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You did see the Contact Us page, right? No? Sigh.
Right. You can email us at: caferati AT gmail DOT com.
The moderator(s) will respond.
All the city chapters also have volunteer-coordinators, and their own mail groups. These groups help members keep abreast of what is being
discussed or planned in those cities. Any queries on these groups
will be answered by the local volunteer coordinators.
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You retain the copyright to all your original work. You also have the ability, on both the message board and the blog, to remove any of your own writing at any time should you wish to.
If Caferati and its editors, at some stage, want to publish your work in areas or media other then the message board or blog, we will discuss
copyright issues at that time.
As to the risk of someone copying your work, we make no claims or guarantees. You stand just as much chance of being plagiarised on Caferati as you do with any other open forum on the web. You, and only you, can weigh the benefits of an audience at no cost to yourself, and interaction with other writers, against the risk of loss of intellectual property and reach a decision that you are comfortable with.
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This is related to the previous question, but deserves a place of its own as well.
Different publications and contests have different standards and rules on this matter. To find out about a particular publication or contest, please check the web site (if available) or ask them directly.
Our understanding of published is that the work has gone through some form of editorial selection. On the Caferati board, on blogs, and other online fora where there is no vetting process (at most, moderation after the event), work posted would not be considered published.
Note also that some publishers and contests use payment as the criterion. We find that incomplete. Many reputed magazines and publishers—particularly of poetry—do not pay their writers at all.
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On the message board and the blog, no. Likewise for the submissions to the SatCT contest (but then entry was free too).
If Caferati and its editors, at some stage, want to publish your work in areas or media other then the message board, blog, or SatCT, we will discuss payment issues at that time.
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Not yet.
Except, that is, for the Stories at the Coffee Table contest, for which the prize is publication, in a book that Caferati will publish, market and promote,
one free Author's Copy, plus a discount of 40% on any further volumes the published writers may choose to buy.
We have had, on occasion, token prizes offered for mini-contests on our message board. But those are purely for fun.
Not yet. Yes. But one day...
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You don’t absolutely have to be a member of Ryze to join in the
read-meets. We encourage this because works can be posted online. That, you see, is where all the regular action is: 24/7, always on, no geographic distances or time zone differences getting in the way.
When you participate on the board, you get to share your work not just with members from our city but with all our members around the world. And you get to read and interact with writers from all over the world. However, if you do not have a PC or regular web access, and choose not
to join for those reasons, we’ll understand completely.
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No.
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No. Posts to our message board or our blog do not go through an approval process. Any post you make is automatically posted to the board. We ask, in return, that you read and respect the guidelines we have posted there. If you flout them, your posts will be removed in their entirety without asking any questions. Repeat violators will be banned from the board.
Please also read the Ryze Terms and Conditions. Members may flag you if you disrespect those, and Ryze admin will remove, ban or restrict you without consulting us. Likewise, our blog runs on Blogger’s free Blogspot hosting service. Please read Blogger’s Terms of Service, and ensure that you comply with them. We’d rather not have the entire blog flagged as objectionable by some random reader.
When in doubt, ask first. The world, and Caferati’s membership, will not be the worse for waiting a wee bit longer for your post.
As to read-meets, again, no restrictions. Follow the same guidelines as on the board. Check in advance if there will be minors present before you read work suitable only for adult ears. Do also send in your work to the moderator before a read-meet. That’s one of the reasons they exist. And please accept their verdict if they ask you not read a particular piece of work.
Once more. when in doubt, ask!
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There could have been many reasons.
Caferati’s members may have liked your work, but just could not think of what
to say by way of response.
The usually active members may have been busy or on a holiday, or in a bad mood.
Perhaps it was an exceptionally busy day on the board, and people missed out on your post altogether in the flurry of new posts.
Perhaps you never comment on other people's writing. Remember the old wisdom: behave with the world as you would like the world to behave with you.
And, maybe, perhaps, it is faintly possible that not many people liked
that piece of writing but they were unsure of how to tell you this. Perhaps they felt that you would be be upset by negative comments. You can minimise the chances of this happening by mentioning in your post (not in the header, please, that sounds very needy) that you are looking for feedback, perhaps even indicate where you think you need help—because that shows you are a keen student of writing, someone who attempts to be objective and ruthless about her/his own writing.
And, maybe, perhaps, it is faintly possible that your mom, significant other, and your best friends love you more than they love your writing.
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Um. Quality. Perseverance. Luck.
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Like we never tire of saying, Caferati is essentially a writers’ group. We like meeting other talented people. We like to experiment with creativity. We like to discuss other people’s writing, and show our own to our peers.
Basically, that’s why.
As Caferati grows, and we put our fingers into other pies, our reasons for doing what we do, may change, naturally. If they do, you'll hear about it here first.
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Members pay their share of expenses at read-meets.
Caferati’s presence on Ryze was initially paid for by Sunil Nair, and since March 2005, has been paid for by Mahesh Murthy, friend, supporter and sometime contributor. Caferati’s web site (where you are now), is paid for and created by Peter Griffin.
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